Road condition and popo hangout

[Green]

I was wondering if we can get a Road Condition and POPO Condition subjects.

Road Condition for most popular roads we ride on.

POPO condition for areas where riders have problems encountering these rascals.


Anyway let me know,


Tim

[Summer4ever]

That's a great idea! I rode Cottage Grove/ Lorane Highway yesterday and there was a ton of gravel on it...WAY more than the last time I rode it three weeks ago. I am glad I was riding with my friend that has a Harley..or I probably would have been riding fast enough for it to be a problem.

[poisonivyR1]

hey ledkat where was the gravle thats usally where i ride

[Green]

I was wondering if we can get a Road Condition and POPO Condition subjects.

Road Condition for most popular roads we ride on.

POPO condition for areas where riders have problems encountering these rascals.


Anyway let me know,


Tim


Bump... Mike,,, can this be done... A subject for favorite road condition.. I like to see one of popo to but not a big deal. Those vermits can get pretty nasty.

[Jane Honda]

sure, I will get that up right now.:thumbup:

[Green]

sure, I will get that up right now.:thumbup:

Thanks MIke.. Awesome.

[WIZARD OF WONDER]

For what it's worth, cops are everywhere. They hide, sneak and slither to get to you. If you're going to go balls out, prepare yourself to run. It's not really that hard to do. :devil:

[Xusia]

Not hard to do; harder to not get caught doing it.

[Green]

Not hard to do; harder to not get caught doing it.

The 2 times I have been on Territorial Hwy, I have ran into Sheriff Patrol. Coming into Eugene. And both times it was a close call. Seems like they like to hangout there.

[WIZARD OF WONDER]

The 2 times I have been on Territorial Hwy, I have ran into Sheriff Patrol. Coming into Eugene. And both times it was a close call. Seems like they like to hangout there.PLEASE! You know how easy it is to pull a cop on that road? Come on man, the possibilities are endless! RUN! :devil:

[FJMam]

:crazy: So all we need is the motor cops taking a peak at this and being even more alert to us sports on the move.
Do you think they don't pay attention to this stuff?:rolleyes:

Did you all catch "Super Bikes" on SPEED last week? Oklahoma State Police confiscated a 'Busa from a drug bust. Now it's used for pursuit. That's trouble!!:flamebike

:ride: Happy riding!

[Jane Honda]

Here's kinda a silly idea I had once..."Don't break the law, and law enforcement wont have a reason to chase you down and put you through the wringer. Obey the law, and encourage others to do the same, and perhaps the stigma surrounding sportbike riders might start to change a bit towards the better." And if you don't like the law, work towards changing it. That's just my :2cents:

[Xusia]

FJMam, Please! If I was going to run, I wouldn't be 'Busa catching me - at least not around here.

Mike, In principle I agree, but since simple speeding constitutes breaking the law, it's basically impossible to not break the law sometimes if you want to actually have some fun. There are only a few roads where you can have fun under the speed limit. :(

[Summer4ever]

Here's kinda a silly idea I had once..."Don't break the law, and law enforcement wont have a reason to chase you down and put you through the wringer. Obey the law, and encourage others to do the same, and perhaps the stigma surrounding sportbike riders might start to change a bit towards the better." And if you don't like the law, work towards changing it. That's just my :2cents:
Hurray Mike, well said!!!

Sure, I speed, but I figure that if I am going to break the law, I'm also going to be an adult and accept the consequences.

...but hey...to each their own, I'd rather risk a ticket, or the possibility of getting out of it, than risk breaking my neck, gettin the smackdown, and getting a huge ticket. Plus, I've heard a ton of stories of people outrunning the cops, just to have them show up at their door later anyways. If you think that all cops are stupid, then you are in la la-land.

[Jane Honda]

Mike, In principle I agree, but since simple speeding constitutes breaking the law, it's basically impossible to not break the law sometimes if you want to actually have some fun. There are only a few roads where you can have fun under the speed limit. :(
I understand what you are saying about wanting to have fun, but it really IS totally possible to obey the law and have fun. Consider this senerio: You wake up one day, and want to have some fun. You decide that you want to shoot Wolf Creek at top speed. You turn a corner, and there sits a black and white just waiting for someone like you to come along. The officer does what his training and the law tells him he must do and goes after you. You make the decission to run, the officer calls ahead on his radio to his buddy just up the road. You run into a road block, get arrested, jailed, fined, loose your job because you are in jail because you cant get to work on time, your bike is impounded, and best of all, that officer gets a really bad taste for sportbike riders of all kinds for the rest of his carreer. Even if you did just stop for the officer and take the citation, youre out anywhere between $300.00 up to Thousands of dollars in fines!
Now consider senerio #2: You decide you want to have some fun, you fork out $250.00 for a track day at P.I.R.. You load up the bike, tear that track to pieces as fast as you can posibally go. You dont have to worry about being stopped by law enforcement, or a deer jumping out infront of you and taking you and your bike out. You have a great day, and on your way home, you consider the PIR track day schedule for your next day of absolute and legal fun!
I agree that many of our laws are absolutely rediculous. I find myself going around corners that are marked "Recommended" as 20 mph at 55 with ease and wonder why that corner was marked so slowly. Then I remember that most of those speed laws were made in consideration of ALL vehicles on the road. Large semi-trucks and trailers as well. So whats the answer? Perhaps work towards changing the law so that motorcycles are given more consideration when making speed laws? Ive seen on I-5 where it says "Speed Limit 65 mph - 55 mph for autos and trucks with trailers" Should the laws be changed to include a 3rd catagory...Bikes 75 mph? I dont know. but until a solution comes about, I will obey the law, encourrage a positive outlook towards sportbike riders, and save the REALLY fun stuff for the track.
Again, only my personal opinion, and you are welcome, as usual, to kindly ask me to shove my opinions where the sun dont shine. :yes:

[Xusia]

I would never ask you to shove your opinions where the sun don't shine! I ride almost every day - track days are very few, so that's not practical for me. Even if I did every track day, at $250 a pop it adds up to more than I normally "spend" on tickets in a year.

And to clear up any misconceptions, I never said anything about running (I generally pull over and take my licks). I said it wasn't possible to have fun and obey the law ALL the time. What I would like to see is due consideration on the part of the officer regarding the situation. I gladly accept the inconvenience of getting pulled over and possibly getting a ticket (to check my license, make sure I have insurance, etc.), if I thought the officer might actually apply his own judgment. They don't HAVE to give you a ticket. You can break the letter law and still be riding in a safe manner - and aren't laws enacted primarily for safety? If you weren't doing anytihng inherently unsafe or stupid, why not check you out, ask you keep it safe, and let you go?

My disdain for law enforcement (not for law enforcement officers - important distinction) is that is has become out money, not safety. People say, change the law but that is much harder to do than to suggest. I agree that's a prudent course of action, but so is civil disobedience (which does NOT infer violence in way, shape, or form). The problem is the people making decisions aren't in my opinion critical thinkers. They tend to believe the answer is stricter enforcement of the letter of the law - which is treating the symptom - whereas I've always believed it's better to find the root cause and deal with that.

So that's my opinion, and it already came out of my @55, so please don't ask me to put it back!

[Jane Honda]

Many good points! :clapping: I have always said that we have WAY to many laws that cover what I like to refer to as "Government Regulated Morality". The way I see it personally is that if it doesnt directly and physically harm the person or property of another, than it shouldnt be a law. After all this is SUPPOSED to be a free country. Should we (As free citizens) be allowed to do with what we own what ever we wish? (Our own bodys included?) Anyway. Good post Xusia. Nothing like a good discussion on a great topic! :thumbup:

[FJMam]

All well said.
I'm with Ledkat. Yes, I go above the posted. Yes, I risk tickets and such. I also keep in mind courtesy on the road to try and keep an image of civility with non-ridiers. I don't believe driving like a lunatic is good for relations with the big metal boxes or the law.
Here comes the soap box..........
Yes, there are too many laws trying to regulate how we live and conduct ourselves in this "Free" country. It's up to us to try and change that with what ever means we have i.e. voting, letter writing, movement. With that said though..............I'm happy to live here in the U.S. there are few other places I'd choose.
So with that said, let's grab the last of this Summer season and burn up some rubber and fossile fuel and chase the American dream! Riding is truly a Freedom to be enjoyed!!
Ride Safe!

[Jane Honda]

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