r1speedemon
09-05-2006, 03:40 PM
Here is some info for suzuki riders... Basically why not to use a power commander....
With the advent of electronic fuel injection on modern motorcycles, there became a need for a sophisticated yet easy to use tool to adjust fuel injection metering.
Previous to the advent of the Teka Suzuki FI Management Tool, there was no tool available to widely adjust the fueling on the Suzuki / Denso ECU.
Existing FI adjusting tools are blessed with high tech-sounding names, but were and still are analog devices that are hampered by cryptic user settings, limited to a very small range of adjustment, and have only 3 throttle ranges to adjust in. The lack of small, discrete tuning ranges, especially at low rpm, leads to limited improvements possible.
Other methods to adjust the fuel rates require "add-on" boxes. Adding an intermediate box to capture and modify sensor signals before the ECU is a perfectly good way to cause the ECU to deliver a different amount of fuel or change the ignition timing.
However, the existing "add-on" boxes (manufactured by 1 company and repackaged under 3 different names, at this time) are flawed by poor design and the use of cheaper, commercial grade electronic components. That causes high-rpm ignition scatter and resulting loss of high rpm power. In fact, the only place that that product looks like it works well is on their own dynos! The Low Inertia Eddy Current EC997 dyno applies a load that is more similar to the load experienced in the real world, and easily shows the power loss caused by ignition scatter when the fuel is adjusted with this add-on box, vs. when using Teka Suzuki FI Adjusting Tool.
The third iteration on that product gets confused by several issues and doesn't access the fuel map properly.
After 2 years of reverse engineering and product research and development, Factory Pro has completed the handheld adjusting tool for the Suzuki / Denso ECU.
The Teka Suzuki FI Adjusting Tool will allow a professional tuner or casual user to exploit the native remapping capabilities built into the Denso / Suzuki ECU - in many small throttle positions and with a relatively wide range of fuelling, + and - adjustment!. No computer required. Realtime changes. Bike runs with the Teka plugged in. You can change mixture as you ride!
Adjust fuel mixture and then - take the Teka FI off. Changes are permanently stored in the Suzuki ECU!
What more could you ask for!
Capabilities include:
4 individual IDLE mixture settings:
In realtime, you are able to adjust each individual cylinder's idle richer or leaner, AS the bike is running!
You can: Rough adjust with the "All Cyls", then fine tune with the Cyl1, Cyl2, Cyl3 or Cyl4 selection.
Makes it super easy to adjust idle mixture - allows you to eliminate the hunting, loping idle caused by improper idle mixture settings. Much better than a power commander or fuel nanny, which can't adjust individual idle - still rough idle possible and likely.
The Denso / Yosh FI adjuster, which can adjust each cylinder's idle mixture, requires that the engine be turned off to program each cylinder, making it difficult to quickly and easily adjust for best idle.
Teka has 5 discrete throttle position RUN settings:
You can adjust and programs fuel delivery in 5 different ranges -
1. up to 10% throttle - to help tune out that annoying off-idle hiccup.
2. 11% to 25% throttle
3. 26% to 50% throttle
4. 51% to 75% throttle
5. 76% to 100% throttle
All adjustable with the engine running!
The Denso / Yosh FI adjuster requires that the engine be turned of to program each cylinder each time, making it impossible to quickly and accurately adjust for best idle.
Widest tuning range:
Teka FI has a super wide range of adjustment of any FI Adjusting tool. We list it as +100 to - 100. That's usually enough to cause lean misfire and rich misfire in most every Suzuki!
The fuel nanny only can richen up mixture - not lean out! Major, major problem with many bikes! The problems with the 3 iteration of a different product will be present here also.
The Yoshimura FI Adjuster has a much limited adjustment range.
Ignition Scatter and other problems avoided:
Unlike the Power Commander 2, the Teka FI does not intercept and attempt to reproduce the ignition pulse causing power-robbing ignition timing scatter at high rpm. By not degrading the original ignition accuracy, Teka FI allows the Suzuki to produce the best top-end power possible as measured under load on the 4-Gas Low Inertia EC997 Eddy Current dyno.
Unlike the Power Commander 3 - the Teka is NOT confused by additional fuel pulses that some ECU's produce under quick acceleration, either. (That's the part of the reason that why PC3 users run into problems in attempting to tuning mixture at high rpm ranges at 10k+ rpms on some bikes).
Could the PC2 concept of intercepting sensor signals ever work?
Yes - it could work - and work very well, at that. We've proved that in the Teka MasterMap add-on box research.
The PC2 concept is very valid - BUT the DynoJet execution is very poorly done in comparison to what it could have been! - starting with the decision to use cheaper commercial-grade components rather than industrial grade.
Teka FI Adjuster can remain attached to the bike while testing:
Remains attached while road testing or dyno testing, unlike the Denso/Yosh FI adjuster.
Laptop NOT required:
Unlike the Power Commanders, no laptop is required to tune. This makes it easy to connect the Teka FI and ride the bike. Ride it - test it - select the "Run" area, pick the range required and hit the RH arrow to richen or the LH arrow to lean out the selected throttle range. Wasn't right? Select the range again and try again! (OK, I cheat. On the Low-Inertia EC997 dyno system, I hold the throttle position and adjust it on the EC997 for best engine smoothness (try that - DynoJet! You can't do that on a model whatever dj dyno - best defense? Don't buy a dj dyno!!).
At the AMA Sears Point National, I tuned a 750 by riding it in first gear at 4k and "snapping" the throttle to 25% to adjust that range for best snap response - and then on to 50% throttle. When the bike stood straight up at each throttle position, it was right - and performed better on the track - coming off corners better at part throttle!
Size?
Fits in your pocket! Cable and all!
Quality:
Lightweight and strong5-line LCD display
Attractive instrument case that is easy to hold and adjust - with 1 hand
Custom raised overlay for tactile key identification
Keys - rated at over 1,300,000 clicks!
Cable - flexible, rubber insulation - not a stiff, plastic sleeve
Usable on multiple Suzuki's - doesn't stay on the bike - stays in your 4-Gas Low Inertia EC997 Dyno room!
Remembers last settings:
Make your changes - the last settings are stored in the Teka for recording in tuning record for the bike!
With the advent of electronic fuel injection on modern motorcycles, there became a need for a sophisticated yet easy to use tool to adjust fuel injection metering.
Previous to the advent of the Teka Suzuki FI Management Tool, there was no tool available to widely adjust the fueling on the Suzuki / Denso ECU.
Existing FI adjusting tools are blessed with high tech-sounding names, but were and still are analog devices that are hampered by cryptic user settings, limited to a very small range of adjustment, and have only 3 throttle ranges to adjust in. The lack of small, discrete tuning ranges, especially at low rpm, leads to limited improvements possible.
Other methods to adjust the fuel rates require "add-on" boxes. Adding an intermediate box to capture and modify sensor signals before the ECU is a perfectly good way to cause the ECU to deliver a different amount of fuel or change the ignition timing.
However, the existing "add-on" boxes (manufactured by 1 company and repackaged under 3 different names, at this time) are flawed by poor design and the use of cheaper, commercial grade electronic components. That causes high-rpm ignition scatter and resulting loss of high rpm power. In fact, the only place that that product looks like it works well is on their own dynos! The Low Inertia Eddy Current EC997 dyno applies a load that is more similar to the load experienced in the real world, and easily shows the power loss caused by ignition scatter when the fuel is adjusted with this add-on box, vs. when using Teka Suzuki FI Adjusting Tool.
The third iteration on that product gets confused by several issues and doesn't access the fuel map properly.
After 2 years of reverse engineering and product research and development, Factory Pro has completed the handheld adjusting tool for the Suzuki / Denso ECU.
The Teka Suzuki FI Adjusting Tool will allow a professional tuner or casual user to exploit the native remapping capabilities built into the Denso / Suzuki ECU - in many small throttle positions and with a relatively wide range of fuelling, + and - adjustment!. No computer required. Realtime changes. Bike runs with the Teka plugged in. You can change mixture as you ride!
Adjust fuel mixture and then - take the Teka FI off. Changes are permanently stored in the Suzuki ECU!
What more could you ask for!
Capabilities include:
4 individual IDLE mixture settings:
In realtime, you are able to adjust each individual cylinder's idle richer or leaner, AS the bike is running!
You can: Rough adjust with the "All Cyls", then fine tune with the Cyl1, Cyl2, Cyl3 or Cyl4 selection.
Makes it super easy to adjust idle mixture - allows you to eliminate the hunting, loping idle caused by improper idle mixture settings. Much better than a power commander or fuel nanny, which can't adjust individual idle - still rough idle possible and likely.
The Denso / Yosh FI adjuster, which can adjust each cylinder's idle mixture, requires that the engine be turned off to program each cylinder, making it difficult to quickly and easily adjust for best idle.
Teka has 5 discrete throttle position RUN settings:
You can adjust and programs fuel delivery in 5 different ranges -
1. up to 10% throttle - to help tune out that annoying off-idle hiccup.
2. 11% to 25% throttle
3. 26% to 50% throttle
4. 51% to 75% throttle
5. 76% to 100% throttle
All adjustable with the engine running!
The Denso / Yosh FI adjuster requires that the engine be turned of to program each cylinder each time, making it impossible to quickly and accurately adjust for best idle.
Widest tuning range:
Teka FI has a super wide range of adjustment of any FI Adjusting tool. We list it as +100 to - 100. That's usually enough to cause lean misfire and rich misfire in most every Suzuki!
The fuel nanny only can richen up mixture - not lean out! Major, major problem with many bikes! The problems with the 3 iteration of a different product will be present here also.
The Yoshimura FI Adjuster has a much limited adjustment range.
Ignition Scatter and other problems avoided:
Unlike the Power Commander 2, the Teka FI does not intercept and attempt to reproduce the ignition pulse causing power-robbing ignition timing scatter at high rpm. By not degrading the original ignition accuracy, Teka FI allows the Suzuki to produce the best top-end power possible as measured under load on the 4-Gas Low Inertia EC997 Eddy Current dyno.
Unlike the Power Commander 3 - the Teka is NOT confused by additional fuel pulses that some ECU's produce under quick acceleration, either. (That's the part of the reason that why PC3 users run into problems in attempting to tuning mixture at high rpm ranges at 10k+ rpms on some bikes).
Could the PC2 concept of intercepting sensor signals ever work?
Yes - it could work - and work very well, at that. We've proved that in the Teka MasterMap add-on box research.
The PC2 concept is very valid - BUT the DynoJet execution is very poorly done in comparison to what it could have been! - starting with the decision to use cheaper commercial-grade components rather than industrial grade.
Teka FI Adjuster can remain attached to the bike while testing:
Remains attached while road testing or dyno testing, unlike the Denso/Yosh FI adjuster.
Laptop NOT required:
Unlike the Power Commanders, no laptop is required to tune. This makes it easy to connect the Teka FI and ride the bike. Ride it - test it - select the "Run" area, pick the range required and hit the RH arrow to richen or the LH arrow to lean out the selected throttle range. Wasn't right? Select the range again and try again! (OK, I cheat. On the Low-Inertia EC997 dyno system, I hold the throttle position and adjust it on the EC997 for best engine smoothness (try that - DynoJet! You can't do that on a model whatever dj dyno - best defense? Don't buy a dj dyno!!).
At the AMA Sears Point National, I tuned a 750 by riding it in first gear at 4k and "snapping" the throttle to 25% to adjust that range for best snap response - and then on to 50% throttle. When the bike stood straight up at each throttle position, it was right - and performed better on the track - coming off corners better at part throttle!
Size?
Fits in your pocket! Cable and all!
Quality:
Lightweight and strong5-line LCD display
Attractive instrument case that is easy to hold and adjust - with 1 hand
Custom raised overlay for tactile key identification
Keys - rated at over 1,300,000 clicks!
Cable - flexible, rubber insulation - not a stiff, plastic sleeve
Usable on multiple Suzuki's - doesn't stay on the bike - stays in your 4-Gas Low Inertia EC997 Dyno room!
Remembers last settings:
Make your changes - the last settings are stored in the Teka for recording in tuning record for the bike!